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shmoogie
09-14-2008, 11:51 PM
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ITT we will learn basic marine knots, these are also very useful for general wilderness and fastening applications as well (camping, packing stuff in a truck, etc.) EDIT: Don't use these for rape or illegal shit :rofl: (there you go od)

First we will begin with the actual structure of the rope. If its not a synthetic fiber round, braided rope it sucks (braid-on-braid a.k.a. braid-over-braid is best). Twine is for boy scouts, rough nylon is for cheap fishermen (soft nylon fibers are great though), thread is for mothers, twisted cotton is for old men who can't accept change.

Most good line is going to come as a spool and will be custom cut-to-length using a heating element. Ususally when you purchase custom cut rope the rope-guy will melt down the ends for you, if they don't: ask them to. Melting down the ends of the rope seals the fibers together and makes the rope last much longer.

Now, on to the real reason this thread is here, actual knots. For all of these I used 1/8" round braided nylon in about a 4' length.

FOR TYING TWO ROPES TOGETHER AT THE ENDS:

THE SQUARE KNOT

1. Take one end of the knot and make a long loop, do not cross the ropes over each other, simply make a long loop as shown below.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6728_etudd/DSCN4259.JPG

2. Come in towards the middle of said long loop with the end of the other rope, pass it through the middle of the loop, behind the top rope of the loop, and over the middle of the loop...shown below.

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http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6730_eqi65/DSCN4261.JPG

3. Bring the free-ended side from the position above back through the loop on the bottom side (make sure you remember to go under the bottom section on the loop from the outside), thus making a loop within a loop.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6731_u59gr/DSCN4262.JPG

4. Tighten the knot by pulling away from the knot while holding all four sections of rope that come out of it, it can be further strengthened by adding an inward loop at the outside of the actual knot (this knot can be slippery and does not work well with small rope)

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6732_mzxer/DSCN4263.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6733_kkhbs/DSCN4264.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6734_8za64/DSCN4265.JPG



THE BOWLINE
(pronounced bow-lin)

This is possibly the greatest knot ever, it has so many uses. It is very strong and is easy to undo. It can be used to tie an end of rope to another, to tie around a pole or tree, to tie around a cleat, this knot is great..

1. To start this knot you must take the end of the rope you wish to tie with and wrap it around what you wish to tie to FROM THE LEFT. In this case I am tying to a Gatorade bottle.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6735_vglu9/DSCN4266.JPG

2. You must then make a loop exiting to the left on the left section of rope before the object you are tying to. It is very important that this loop exits to the left, if it does not the knot will fail.

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http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6737_lpbyh/DSCN4268.JPG

3. Take the end section of the rope and come through the middle of the loop from the right.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6738_d5ueq/DSCN4269.JPG

4. Take the end section and go under the section of rope previous to the loop.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6739_kzk4r/DSCN4270.JPG

5. Now take the end section back up on the right side of the section previous to the loop, and exit through the loop to the right on the right side of the section of rope you just came down and under with. Your knot should now look like this:

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6740_rgvno/DSCN4271.JPG

6. Tighten this knot by making sure the end section has enough play room to account for slack in the knot then complete by pulling against the knot from the leading section (before the knot). You should now have a beautiful bowline that looks like the one below.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6741_gbszv/DSCN4272.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6742_wvaf2/DSCN4273.JPG


THE (INSERT-NAME) KNOT

I'm actually not sure what this knot is called. I do know it is used by the military, fire and rescue teams, and the coast guard. Its basically a quick bowline variant that is tied in your hand. It is another very strong knot that is easy to undo. This is a very hard knot to demonstrate, you'll probably notice that in the pics.

1. Begin by taking a good length of rope and laying it in the palm of your hand against your thumb joint.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6743_fhbka/DSCN4274.JPG

2. Make two more loops, distanced, across your hand going from the top, around the back of your hand, and up under the bottom to come across the palm again.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6744_lt9v2/DSCN4275.JPG

3. Pull up on the middle section, place it over the left section. Pull up on the left section through the middle section making a small half-loop section.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6745_last5/DSCN4276.JPG

4. Take this half-loop section across the right section. Bring the right section up as a new half-loop.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6746_r9ttx/DSCN4277.JPG

6. Take this new half-loop section over the farthest left section, pull the section you just went over up as a loop. Now take your hands and hold the leading section (before the knot) and the end section of the rope. Tighten by pulling against the knot with the leading and end sections while holding the loop.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6747_14f4y/DSCN4278.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6748_4gape/DSCN4279.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6749_9g50x/DSCN4280.JPG

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7. To quickly undo this knot pull on the base of the loop from underneath, both sides.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6752_o6ipm/DSCN4283.JPG





THE CLEAT HITCH

The cleat hitch is used usually to tie from land (dock) to a boat. It only works when tied around a cleat (or in this case, my hand)

This is going to be another hard one to demonstrate because I do not actually have a cleat, just my hand in the crude shape of a cleat.

Notice how similar they are. There is even a cleat hitch in the pic below, this is what it looks like from above (even though its only a half-wrap around the base which makes the knot weaker) :oopsie:

http://www.videos.sailingcourse.com/images/cleat-hitch-2.jpg

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6753_5hwkl/DSCN4284.JPG

:ugh: hairy..

1. Take the line from land and make a full wrap around the base of the cleat starting from the left.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6754_euyxo/DSCN4285.JPG

2. Take the end section, after the base-wrap, go around the left side of the cleat by going up over the cleat, around the back of the left side cleat-end, and back up over top of the other section.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6755_9ltos/DSCN4286.JPG

3. Do the same on the right side cleat-end. Go around the back of the cleat-end, under, and wrap towards the back again. This time you're going to want to go under the section of rope that you just came across from the left side with.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6756_k5fuv/DSCN4287.JPG

4. Pull the end section all the way through under the section that comes across from the left side, make an additional wrap around the left if you wish.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6757_pemcw/DSCN4288.JPG






THE CLOVE HITCH (I think...)

There are so many of these types of hitches that I can't keep all the names straight. This one, I believe the clove hitch, is used to tie around a rail, pipe, another rope, etc.

1. Begin by looping behind the object you're tying to. Around the back, up to the front.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6758_uu73n/DSCN4289.JPG


2. Bring the end section over to the left, on the front side of the object you're tying to.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6760_em5su/DSCN4291.JPG

3. Take the end section around the back to make a loose loop. Bring the end through the loop on the right side, putting the end section between both loops.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6761_qsd6n/DSCN4292.JPG

4. Pull on the lead and end sections to tighten.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6762_lagqv/DSCN4293.JPG






THE HALF HITCH

I use this knot a lot to make a fast loop in a rope and anchor using that loop. Its a pretty simple, moderately strong knot that can be strengthened by simply adding more loops.

1. Wrap around whatever you're trying to from the left. Take the end section and make a loop going over the front to the left, then behind and back up on the top side of the loop.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6763_fzckc/DSCN4294.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6764_igmro/DSCN4295.JPG

2. Make another loop exactly like the one above below the one you just made (further down the leading section) Also, notice the melted down rope end. :cool:

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6765_bwfzg/DSCN4296.JPG

3. Tighten by pulling on the end and leading sections.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6766_rirom/DSCN4297.JPG






THE CHAIN HITCH

The chain hitch is a strong, quick releasing knot. It is usually used to tie down small emergency vessels (fire boats, quick response boats, etc.)

This is an awesome knot. It, much like the bowline, will make the ladies swoon. It is a series of loops that make for a good looking knot, and a cool zipper effect when you undo the loops.

1. Begin by making a small loop facing towads you (or going around an anchor such as a D-ring, this is actually the way to tie this, but, since I did not have a D-ring handy I tied by looping around my bedpost from the left instead) Notice that the end section is on the right, you need to have a good amount of rope on the end section, the more rope you have out there = the more loops in your knot. The more loops in your knot = the more fun it is to pull.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6770_jr9vf/DSCN4301.JPG

2. Grab a section after your thumb, make a half loop, pull through the starter loop. Do NOT pull it completely through. To make this knot longer keep half loops through each other.

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6771_knyyn/DSCN4302.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6772_ci6tp/DSCN4303.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6773_r8mvz/DSCN4304.JPG

3. To end the section of loops take the end of your rope and put it through the the last half-loop you made, much like you were pulling another half-loop through, just pull it all through. You should end up with this:

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6774_27uov/DSCN4305.JPG

And the finished product:

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6767_ofsba/DSCN4298.JPG

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6768_mwjl8/DSCN4299.JPG

To undo this knot (awesome and fun) pull the end of the rope back out of the last half-loop and pull on it, like a zipper effect...or something :dunno:

http://www.nnuploads.com/files/6769_ulaqa/DSCN4300.JPG

All the loops will come out in order, its a great feeling. :rofl:











Questions? Comments?

It took me 2 hours to make this, they're appreciated.

meanbeans
09-14-2008, 11:58 PM
pretty awesome edu but i dont know if i'll ever need to know any of this :(

Sammy Boy
09-15-2008, 12:00 AM
an its application would be...

pdL
09-15-2008, 12:01 AM
what the fuck am i going to do with all these knotsssssss

CUNTPUNT
09-15-2008, 12:01 AM
:bigthumb:
pretty cool
knots are always good to know

shmoogie
09-15-2008, 12:03 AM
an its application would be...

Mainly marine applications. Zrout requested one, and I felt like a good EDU. :bigthumb:

shmoogie
09-15-2008, 12:04 AM
what the fuck am i going to do with all these knotsssssss

Impress women. Knots > magic.

You'll never know when you'll run into a kinky bitch that likes to be tied down, these girls don't enjoy granny knots very well either.

Coffee and TV
09-15-2008, 12:14 AM
:bowdown:

I forgot most of the ones I learned in boy scouts. :hs:

TK
09-15-2008, 12:26 AM
fuck i can't wait to use these on someone :bowdown:

Thosch-Oft
09-15-2008, 11:50 AM
nice, will maybe refer to this later

FLY180
09-16-2008, 09:03 PM
Which knot provides the least chance for someone to escape from?

FLY180
09-16-2008, 09:03 PM
...and by someone i mean no one. Definitely not the girl i have in my basement.

DISLEX
09-16-2008, 09:05 PM
Awesome thread! :bigthumb:

jellojunkie
09-16-2008, 09:06 PM
which knot recommended for rape tiem?

kthxbai.

edit: aww fuck.

shmoogie
09-16-2008, 09:34 PM
Which knot provides the least chance for someone to escape from?


Spanish bowline

I'll post it up with an alpine butterfly in the next few days

H.P.
09-16-2008, 09:38 PM
pics of these on a lady friend

Ice
09-16-2008, 10:13 PM
shit + rep

Ice
09-16-2008, 10:14 PM
shoulda used a lighter color rope tho so itd be easier to see :o

organdonor
09-16-2008, 10:27 PM
:)

Hans Moleman
09-19-2008, 02:37 PM
nice little edu here. the half hitch combined with a trucker's hitch is fucking invaluable when tying shit to a truck.

I look forward to learning some new knots.

Bobert
09-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Just made the knot used by military/rescue and holy fuck this is strong. Going to try to practice these every so often so I can do them by memory if I ever need them. The end of the world is coming, after all.

shoulda used a lighter color rope tho so itd be easier to see :o
:werd: But you can still make all the details out if you look closely.

I have the same type of rope but in white. I cut a ~5 foot length off of my 50 footer to keep by my desk for practicing

Wasn't able to get the end all nice and neat, so I melted an inch or so of it just to be safe :o

Bobert
09-23-2008, 09:23 PM
Spanish bowline

I'll post it up with an alpine butterfly in the next few days

in for this :bigthumb:

shmoogie
09-24-2008, 11:07 AM
thread will be updated tonight

tryfuhl
10-21-2008, 03:27 AM
update

shmoogie
10-26-2008, 10:41 PM
sorry bros got sidetracked by irl

I'll get around to the update sometime this week

Bobert
11-09-2008, 05:24 PM
i had kinda given up on this thread

shmoogie
11-11-2008, 10:52 AM
its coming on a day that I don't have irl stuff to do and I remember

HKIC
11-24-2008, 05:13 PM
update

Brewster
11-25-2008, 03:14 AM
Needs more sheetbend, rolling hitch, 8-knot, and better way to do reef knot.

User Name
11-25-2008, 09:42 PM
eagle scout here.

knot ftw

tautline hitch is my favorite.

nametaken158
11-27-2008, 11:20 PM
Cool shit...I'm going camping this weekend so maybe I can show everyone how rugged and outdoorsy I am. :noes:

Imtoodumbtothinkof1
11-28-2008, 06:10 AM
needs more monkey's fist