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trev ftw
03-05-2008, 12:38 PM
She's the shittiest person running. John McCain at a close 2nd since Huckaretard is out.

Discuss. :hsughr:

killafornia
03-05-2008, 07:17 PM
i hope she gets the dem nomination so mccain can have someone easier to beat

BrownWalrus
03-05-2008, 11:15 PM
Interesting how she came back and won 3 after her 12 streak loss...

Obama is still in the lead though.

Slick26
03-05-2008, 11:35 PM
Interesting how she came back and won 3 after her 12 streak loss...

Obama is still in the lead though.
She surged because of all the people that came out and voted for her JUST so Obama wouldn't win any more delegates. Not because they actually like her.
There's a huge push right now to derail Obama from his strong grip on the dem race.

killafornia
03-06-2008, 01:15 AM
a lot of repubs voted for hillary in the open primaries to help bump obama too

Slick26
03-06-2008, 01:20 AM
a lot of repubs voted for hillary in the open primaries to help bump obama too
Yeah, there's a lot of volleying going on right now.
Hillary and her campaign, and even the media, try to spin it off and make it look like her SUPPORT is growing stronger and she is still in the race... actually its just people voting for her to hurt Obama or vice versa.

A lot of people are voting for her so she can be the candidate against McCain, who a lot of conservatives think they have a better chance against.

So yeah, its not cuz she just magically got more popular like they want you to think.

lazyload
03-06-2008, 10:07 AM
fuck this year, Rudy '12 :bigthumb:

tryfuhl
03-06-2008, 03:49 PM
I'm interested in what everyone has against her.

Going just off of gut (let's ignore the issues, they never amount to shit anyways), as long as she keeps personal shit off of her front page agenda, I think that she's got plenty to prove and could do just as well as Obama, if not better.

upparoom
03-06-2008, 04:13 PM
I'm interested in what everyone has against her.

Going just off of gut (let's ignore the issues, they never amount to shit anyways), as long as she keeps personal shit off of her front page agenda, I think that she's got plenty to prove and could do just as well as Obama, if not better.

how can you want to talk about why people are against her and ignore the issues? The issues are why I'm against her. Not because she's a woman or anything else.

1. Universal Healt Care
2. meddling into the free market where government has no business
3. her stance on gun control
4. her "the government will fix everything for you" attitude

just to get started

lazyload
03-06-2008, 04:27 PM
how can you want to talk about why people are against her and ignore the issues? The issues are why I'm against her. Not because she's a woman or anything else.

1. Universal Healt Care
2. meddling into the free market where government has no business
3. her stance on gun control
4. her "the government will fix everything for you" attitude

just to get started

fucking :werd: you got my vote

Slick26
03-07-2008, 12:32 AM
how can you want to talk about why people are against her and ignore the issues? The issues are why I'm against her. Not because she's a woman or anything else.

1. Universal Healt Care
2. meddling into the free market where government has no business
3. her stance on gun control
4. her "the government will fix everything for you" attitude

just to get started
Feminist and anti-gun. For big government.

Bent
03-07-2008, 03:38 AM
how can you want to talk about why people are against her and ignore the issues? The issues are why I'm against her. Not because she's a woman or anything else.

1. Universal Healt Care
2. meddling into the free market where government has no business
3. her stance on gun control
4. her "the government will fix everything for you" attitude

just to get startedAbso-fucking-lutely.

trev ftw
03-07-2008, 04:50 PM
I'm interested in what everyone has against her.

Going just off of gut (let's ignore the issues, they never amount to shit anyways), as long as she keeps personal shit off of her front page agenda, I think that she's got plenty to prove and could do just as well as Obama, if not better.

I don't think there's a single thing about her that I like. She's super corrupt. She's pro big government. She's anti-gun. She's anti civil liberties..

yeah, there's nothing about her I like.

At least with Obama, he's pro civil liberties.. but still pretty liberal economically. :wtc:

lazyload
03-07-2008, 06:31 PM
in my opinion, anyone that is pro big government is anti civil liberties

Bent
03-08-2008, 02:09 AM
I don't think there's a single thing about her that I like. She's super corrupt. She's pro big government. She's anti-gun. She's anti civil liberties..

yeah, there's nothing about her I like.

At least with Obama, he's pro civil liberties.. but still pretty liberal economically. :wtc:He may have been a civil rights lawyer...that also means he knows his way 'around' them (civil liberties, I mean)....

Never trust 'big government' types.

trev ftw
03-08-2008, 01:11 PM
He may have been a civil rights lawyer...that also means he knows his way 'around' them (civil liberties, I mean)....

Never trust 'big government' types.

While I agree.. I don't think he's pro civil rights because of his former occupation(although, of course, that has something to do with it). He's for big government, yes.. that doesn't mean he's anti civil liberties, though. You can still want UH without wanting to encroach upon the rights of others(ie., not putting stipulations on receiving care or saying "don't smoke and we'll take care of you"). Obama is slightly similar to Mike Gravel, 'cept more of a politician.. which is why I wouldn't vote for him. He still says bullshit to get elected, but he still has good principles. Ron Paul has even said that him and Obama want the same thing, they just have a different way of going about it(I don't remember where exactly, but I believe it was Tucker Carlson who asked him his opinion of Obama).


I don't trust big government types either - although I would've voted for Mike Gravel had RP not been running, simply because he's still pro liberty. He's actually more libertarian than RP. Not Libertarian; libertarian. There's a difference.

tryfuhl
03-13-2008, 02:09 AM
how can you want to talk about why people are against her and ignore the issues? The issues are why I'm against her. Not because she's a woman or anything else.

1. Universal Healt Care
2. meddling into the free market where government has no business
3. her stance on gun control
4. her "the government will fix everything for you" attitude

just to get started

My post was mostly just to spur whatever personal problems that people had with her. Do you think that she could really bring UHC into place?

upparoom
03-13-2008, 02:36 PM
My post was mostly just to spur whatever personal problems that people had with her. Do you think that she could really bring UHC into place?

For at least 2 years, she'll have a Democrat contolled Congress at her beck and call.

I see it being a very realistic threat, and considering the kind of things that have come out of Congress that Bush has vetoed, it wouldnt suprise me in the slightest